It seems that if someone you follow has shared something to their blublog without a comment it does not seem like you can add your own comment. It would be nice to allow for comments on shared items even if the person who shared the item did no add a comment when they did so.
See also:
https://getsatisfaction.com/newsblur/âŚ
https://getsatisfaction.com/newsblur/âŚ
Samuel Clay (Official Rep) 4 days ago
If you want to comment on a story, why not share that story? Alternatively, reply to somebody who has. But I donât like the idea of having a free radical shared comment with no requirement to back it by your own share.
The issue that will never die. Iâm still firmly in Ianâs camp here; If you share a story, anybody should be able to comment. Sam, youâre already splitting âpublic commentsâ out from comments from your friends, so what trouble would there be in allowing comments on shared items without parent comments?
I switched from Reader to Newsblur. I even paid money for it. I got a bunch of my friends to do likewise. Very positive reviews from everyone, with one notable exception: we all end up sharing items with a â//â comment for the sole purpose of allowing comments from each other. Such an annoying work-around for preserving the one key feature we loved most in Reader.
Please either implement this, or, if thereâs a fundamental decision NOT to implement this, please communicate it clearly.
Frankly, most of us will probably abandon Newsblur if this feature isnât on the roadmap.
I wanted to dredge this topic up again because I find it really aggravating, and I cannot for the life of me understand why it hasnât been fixed already. We have options to control who can see our shared items, and we have options to control whose comments we want to see. All the privacy controls are in place, so why not give us an âadd commentâ button when viewing somebody elseâs shared item, whether or not they originally commented on it themselves?
Right now the only workaround is to share every item with a one-character comment just to trick the software into working the way we want it to. Judging by the number of requests to fix this, itâs widely perceived as a problem by the user base. If it doesnât fit with your vision about how Newsblur âshouldâ be used, then at least give those of us paying customers who disagree a preference to allow these dreaded âfree radicalâ comments.
Iâm happy to implement this, but I donât have an interface for how it will work. How do you respond to a specific user? And I refuse to clutter the interface, so itâs going to be tough to figure it out, which is why it hasnât happened yet.
Hi Sam, I appreciate you being willing to think about it. I was just talking about this with some local Newsblur users, and we all thought that the best solution would be to simply add a fourth button to the existing group of three (Train/Save/Share This Story) for âAdd Commentâ that would appear when viewing someoneâs shared item.
To be clear, Iâm only talking about adding this capability for items that have already been shared by a friend. The example use case would be:
- Alice shares a movie review, but doesnât include a comment.
- Bob reads Aliceâs shared item and uses the Add Comment button to reply with âhaha I saw that on thursday, it was terribleâ.
Perhaps an âAlice shared this without commentâ with a âreplyâ button like a normal comment has? Perhaps relabel the button as âreplyâ seems nonsensical? âComment on Aliceâs shareâ?
Sam, did you use Google Reader? Because that is what people want.
Basically each user has a list of shares. Those shares have a list of people who can see the share (if you have fine-grained sharing). Anyone who can see a share can comment on that share and that comment will be seen by exactly the people who can see the share.
If Alice shares X and someone comments, it does not affect the fact that Bob shared X also. If Charlie follows Alice and Bob, he could comment separately on both Xâs and neither would see the other comment. Each comment stream is connected to the cross-product of user and share.
The issue is that you have, I believe, a different mental model of commenting. I left NewsBlur because commenting was very strange and seemed to be site-wide rather than on individual shares. It was unclear who could see what.
The Reader model was clean, although the downside was that if you comment on something you do not know who can see your comment (because that was determined by the user who shared the article) but in the age of Twitter this seems to be less of an issue.
Ian is exactly right - all thatâs desired is the ability to have a discussion among friends after one of them shares a story. It seems like the UI for this would be incredibly simple.
Darn, this seems to have died out again.
Itâs a new year and this incredibly important and incredibly simple feature is still, incredibly, missing. Will 2015 be the year that Newsblur finally becomes a proper replacement for Google Reader?
Matt, inoreader has what youâre looking for. We moved when it became clear that newsblur wasnât designed for our use case.
Thanks Ian. Iâve checked out Inoreader and thereâs a lot to like there, but their support for rule creation doesnât seem to quite do what I want (primarily, canât easily filter blog posts by category). This is one of the things I appreciate about NewsBlur.
inoreader has rule support to assign tags or âmark as readâ feed entries based on info in the RSS and it looks pretty comprehensive to me, but then it isnât really something that I use so I donât know!
Yah, I meant filtering on tags or categories that are present in the source material, not assigning tags based on the results of a regular expression. Iâm talking about the tags/categories/whatever that the original blog post author has assigned to his post. For example, if I am subscribed to a technology site where I only want to see product reviews and filter out all the other stuff like industry news and politics, Newsbur makes it easy to allow only items tagged with âReviewsâ to show up. You can probably do this with Inoreader if you try hard enough, but I appreciate how easy Newsblur makes it.
This really just comes down to the UI. I remember Readerâs âShareâ vs âCommentâ vs âLikeâ and couldnât figure out why there were so many different ways to act on a story. If I add âCommentâ to go along with âShareâ to mean reply to somebodyâs else share, I think weâre gonna have a lot more confused users.Â
That said, I do see a nice difference b/w sharing, liking, and commenting (which seems like it isnât even the exact same thing, itâs just comment without sharing, whereas you want replying to somebody who shared without commenting). So you can see some of the confusion here.
The database supports it just fine, though, so I would welcome a nice clean UX that makes it easy. If anybody mocks up a commentless-reply, Iâd be glad to build it. Iâve thought it building for too long for it to be some obvious solution, but I feel like there is some answer out there.
I checked out inoreader today based on the suggestion from this thread. It appears to implement exactly whatâs being asked for here, which is identical to the old Google Reader sharing/commenting object model. Samuel, it may be worth looking at that service for a working exampleâbased on your comments I think you may be misremembering how Reader worked. Itâs actually pretty straight-forward.
letâs get away from reader and newsblur parlance for a second (specifically, the distinction between âcommentsâ and ârepliesâ), and switch to facebook. when one shares something on facebook, they are given the option to include some text of their own. perhaps they want to elaborate on why they shared this thing or whatâs meaningful about it. but hey, perhaps they donât, because they think the content speaks for itself. so they leave the field blank. on such shares, would you expect the comment stream below to cease existing?
you talk about UI confusion, but at this point i suspect any facebook user will be comfortable with the distinction between âshare,â âcomment,â and âlike.â Â but if youâre worried about alienating users, what if you took a pass at this functionality, and only enabled it at dev.newsblur.com, to give users a chance to try it out and weigh in before releasing it into the wild?
would you accept a purely visual mockup of how this might look? iâm afraid i donât have the technical chops to actually code something like this up. but iâm not so bad at visual aids
This!